Comments on: How is encouraging people to stop smoking by raising taxes supposed to raise money for health care? http://marinatabernacle.org/stop-smoking/how-is-encouraging-people-to-stop-smoking-by-raising-taxes-supposed-to-raise-money-for-health-care Mon, 24 May 2010 13:32:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Woody Woodburn http://marinatabernacle.org/stop-smoking/how-is-encouraging-people-to-stop-smoking-by-raising-taxes-supposed-to-raise-money-for-health-care/comment-page-1#comment-5356 Woody Woodburn Mon, 25 Jan 2010 15:01:59 +0000 http://marinatabernacle.org/stop-smoking/how-is-encouraging-people-to-stop-smoking-by-raising-taxes-supposed-to-raise-money-for-health-care#comment-5356 I am not sure, but if cigarettes get anymore expensive they had better sell them out of a guarded vault or a bank with armed guards! NY has $100 cartons now! $10 a pack! Lookout......crime is fixing to take a hike!<br><b>References : </b><br> I am not sure, but if cigarettes get anymore expensive they had better sell them out of a guarded vault or a bank with armed guards! NY has $100 cartons now! $10 a pack! Lookout……crime is fixing to take a hike!
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]]> By: LasVegasPasses.com http://marinatabernacle.org/stop-smoking/how-is-encouraging-people-to-stop-smoking-by-raising-taxes-supposed-to-raise-money-for-health-care/comment-page-1#comment-5355 LasVegasPasses.com Mon, 25 Jan 2010 14:42:59 +0000 http://marinatabernacle.org/stop-smoking/how-is-encouraging-people-to-stop-smoking-by-raising-taxes-supposed-to-raise-money-for-health-care#comment-5355 It's mission creep. If they are successful, then here comes the excuse to raise other taxes. But, they won't be. Smokers actually save money in health care costs. How? By dying sooner! End-of-life medical expences are pretty much the same, on average. Lung cancer kills fast. Diabetes, Alzheimers, other cancers, heart failure, etc. can kill very slow, racking up huge bills, all the while one is still on social security & in assisted care facilities. The sooner you die after you are no longer a taxpayer, then the less of a burden you are. That sounds harsh, and it's not a happy thought, but it is irrefutably true. Bottom line; they just want to confiscate more of our cash, from every source possible. Any excuse will do.<br><b>References : </b><br>http://www.LP.org It’s mission creep. If they are successful, then here comes the excuse to raise other taxes.

But, they won’t be. Smokers actually save money in health care costs. How? By dying sooner! End-of-life medical expences are pretty much the same, on average. Lung cancer kills fast. Diabetes, Alzheimers, other cancers, heart failure, etc. can kill very slow, racking up huge bills, all the while one is still on social security & in assisted care facilities. The sooner you die after you are no longer a taxpayer, then the less of a burden you are. That sounds harsh, and it’s not a happy thought, but it is irrefutably true.

Bottom line; they just want to confiscate more of our cash, from every source possible. Any excuse will do.
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]]> By: Olan Black http://marinatabernacle.org/stop-smoking/how-is-encouraging-people-to-stop-smoking-by-raising-taxes-supposed-to-raise-money-for-health-care/comment-page-1#comment-5354 Olan Black Mon, 25 Jan 2010 13:54:59 +0000 http://marinatabernacle.org/stop-smoking/how-is-encouraging-people-to-stop-smoking-by-raising-taxes-supposed-to-raise-money-for-health-care#comment-5354 No, it is suppose to get people to stop smoking reduce the cost of health care this is the logic (agree or not, i really don't care and I am a smoker) the majority of health cost are due to smoking, so if you stop people from smoking, you reduce health care cost. but.... you also reduce the need for tobacco (the number one cash crop for Kentucky, and the second cash crop for North Carolina). reduce the number of factory workers at plants that package cigarettes (they have a big plant in Greensboro,NC employs about 2,000 people. I think the tax money will end up funding something stupid, like the money that states got from the tobacco lawsuit, it was used as normal state funds and not for health care.<br><b>References : </b><br> No, it is suppose to

get people to stop smoking

reduce the cost of health care

this is the logic (agree or not, i really don’t care and I am a smoker)

the majority of health cost are due to smoking, so if you stop people from smoking, you reduce health care cost. but….

you also reduce the need for tobacco (the number one cash crop for Kentucky, and the second cash crop for North Carolina).

reduce the number of factory workers at plants that package cigarettes (they have a big plant in Greensboro,NC employs about 2,000 people.

I think the tax money will end up funding something stupid, like the money that states got from the tobacco lawsuit, it was used as normal state funds and not for health care.
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]]> By: golfman26@sbcglobal.net http://marinatabernacle.org/stop-smoking/how-is-encouraging-people-to-stop-smoking-by-raising-taxes-supposed-to-raise-money-for-health-care/comment-page-1#comment-5353 golfman26@sbcglobal.net Mon, 25 Jan 2010 13:34:59 +0000 http://marinatabernacle.org/stop-smoking/how-is-encouraging-people-to-stop-smoking-by-raising-taxes-supposed-to-raise-money-for-health-care#comment-5353 Human nature they know the majority of people will not quit. How many times I heard when they went to $4 a pack I'm quitting. Didn't happen including myself.<br><b>References : </b><br> Human nature they know the majority of people will not quit. How many times I heard when they went to $4 a pack I’m quitting. Didn’t happen including myself.
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]]> By: ensnentill http://marinatabernacle.org/stop-smoking/how-is-encouraging-people-to-stop-smoking-by-raising-taxes-supposed-to-raise-money-for-health-care/comment-page-1#comment-5352 ensnentill Mon, 25 Jan 2010 13:02:59 +0000 http://marinatabernacle.org/stop-smoking/how-is-encouraging-people-to-stop-smoking-by-raising-taxes-supposed-to-raise-money-for-health-care#comment-5352 1 won't be successful. It's just the excuse so that they can get #2.<br><b>References : </b><br> 1 won’t be successful. It’s just the excuse so that they can get #2.
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]]> By: Damone http://marinatabernacle.org/stop-smoking/how-is-encouraging-people-to-stop-smoking-by-raising-taxes-supposed-to-raise-money-for-health-care/comment-page-1#comment-5351 Damone Mon, 25 Jan 2010 12:17:59 +0000 http://marinatabernacle.org/stop-smoking/how-is-encouraging-people-to-stop-smoking-by-raising-taxes-supposed-to-raise-money-for-health-care#comment-5351 Indirect savings from less people dying of tobacco-related complications, therefore lower health care costs overall.<br><b>References : </b><br> Indirect savings from less people dying of tobacco-related complications, therefore lower health care costs overall.
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]]> By: HQ http://marinatabernacle.org/stop-smoking/how-is-encouraging-people-to-stop-smoking-by-raising-taxes-supposed-to-raise-money-for-health-care/comment-page-1#comment-5350 HQ Mon, 25 Jan 2010 12:11:59 +0000 http://marinatabernacle.org/stop-smoking/how-is-encouraging-people-to-stop-smoking-by-raising-taxes-supposed-to-raise-money-for-health-care#comment-5350 Obama will definitely pay his share of taxes. He loves them Newports.<br><b>References : </b><br> Obama will definitely pay his share of taxes. He loves them Newports.
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